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Civilization isn't a geographical territory, it's a social and economic territory where pharaohs reign and pyramids are built by the masses. Similarly, beyond civilization isn't a geographical territory, it's a social and economic territory where people in open tribes pursue goals that may or may not be recognizably "civilized."

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UNIT 23 Becoming Less Harmful

But how does it render us harmless? · "The culture of maximum harm" · But how can we contain their expansion? · Something better to hope for · An intermediate goal: less harmful


The author says we live in a culture "where all ethical and religious systems commend self-denial." Why do you think self-denial has become such a value in our culture?

Why is it true that in the most materialistic society the world has ever known, our textbooks never extol the virtues of materialistic success?

Quinn defines the culture of maximum harm as "a culture in which all members are dedicated to attaining the high point of maximum affluence (and to forever raising the high point of maximum affluence)." Suggest examples of our raising the high point of maximum affluence.

Quinn says that the last pharaohs of the Taker world can't turn their nuclear arsenal on tribal peoples living their midst, but maybe they could try passing laws against people making their living in a tribal way. How would you frame such a law? (Remember that many ordinary businesses start in a very tribal way.)

What are you honestly inclined to right now--breaking out of the prison or inhabiting a "sable-lined cell"?

Becoming "less harmful" isn't a very exciting or glamorous goal. Do you think this will diminish its chance of catching on with the public?

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